Oceans of Wisdom

1. OK I think release is quite fast for basic dropping. 2. good job @[simo] and @[GelatoGenesis] on this 3. From my perspective, I would move on on web to: 1. A variety of other UX improvements (smaller ones) we can easily knock out 2. And get on with Rank and Approval which is the real thing 4. What does everyone else think?

testing something

has anyone tested the Mac desktop app?

we did another speed improvement today. testing to see if real

what a boss card

So dropping posts should be meaningfully faster. time to appear should be down from 4-5 seconds to 1.75 to 2.00 seconds. Still work to do but a good step forward. I had to reboot my computer before I saw the performance increase. Currently only on web; will get this to Core soon. Give a shot and let me know what you think.

seeing this in console 

@[simo] I think this "show more" is totally unnecessary just to show that simo is mentioned in this text. show more implies that there is more substantive text then I click and just find out "simo" which I can already see. option 1: do not hide the identities mentioned option 2: get rid of the identities mentioned section altogether But in any case hiding them beyond a "show more" is unneeded 

trying another new drop to see what @[simo] has done

On Not Buying A Dali Tonight https://x.com/punk6529/status/1826358529554612560

@[simo] I think tomorrow we can drop the level gate to 10

good tweet https://x.com/StartupArchive_/status/1826225251103162483

omg that was nuts. who made this?

Wave title should be clickable to return to stream if you are at the level of a drop 

Centralized Verification, Part 69 The latest in the saga of getting our Apple Developer signing keys for the Core on Mac. This is the nth annoying thing in the process. Every time we think we are "done", we are not. Imagine thinking that all this is not going to get swept aside by self-sovereign crypto From the Apple Forums. "There’s been a recent spate of issues where notary requests get stuck in progress for a long time. This seems to primary affect folks who are notarising for the first time, but I’ve also seen it affect other folks. The first thing to do here is to wait. The blockage usually clears itself in a day or two. And once it’s clear, my experience is that new requests run quickly again.'

I think quote drop window when typing it should go above quoted drop since that is how it is displayed in Stream. this makes it look like you are writing a reply

@[simo] @[prxt0] @[GelatoGenesis] @[000] We need to start putting scope on releases Web Core etc

ok missed the announcement by @[simo] so we have been fighting / struggling with how to best handle replies. we just released last night the first batch of improvements: a) references and markdown available b) they appear in a different order (this still needs some work to see chatting style; also, separately we are optimizing the speed but that is not live yet) c) I think we need to add upload media to the drops d) also need to add to Core

1. @[simo] did you release drops as replies? 2. you need to announce in releases and meme-chat if you did and what you did 3. don't we need to allow the media upload and expand icon too? 4. also it does not feel like they are drops. i dunno if the box needs to be bigger 5. @[prxt0] we need to get to core too noting the above

 @[prxt0] - I think: a) beta label off on mint on seize b) swap order c) Add a "backup" label on mint on manifold

just spent 4 hours writing something for a public consultation (cannot say which one unfortunately). Sometimes necessary but among my less enjoyable life tasks as you have to write in bureaucratese

@[simo] @[ragne] I think we can show more text on initial load in-stream? 

**Brain Development Immediate-Term Updates** **1. Replies as Drops** Replies as drops remains our #1 priority. The struggle is real on the design/UX. We have gone through like 5 versions so far we did not like. Hopefully we will find one in the next couple of days that is good enough to release **2. Performance** @[GelatoGenesis] is back in action so hopefully we can start optimizing speed of various actions in Brain **3. 6529 Core for Mac** We have our signing credentials now so we will see if we can get the Mac app out

This is the wave for 6529 Core (Desktop App) Release. The latest releases will be the most recent post here. Note that the app also auto-updates so if you have an existing version, it should auto-update

VLADA! https://x.com/punk6529/status/1825197316581536083 

This week's meme artists Monday: [@vladasarts](https://x.com/vladasarts) Wednesday: [@C4RDlNAL](https://x.com/C4RDlNAL) Friday: Still thinking about what matches best

the notifications and workflow after minting/signing to go back to to the app are not great. you have to press a button on app and then that pops another default windows button in a different color and with weird local port text. we need to make this more normie friendly

don't know if real or episodic but after minting from desktop app and returning to mint page, took a long time to get back to my stream

minted from desktop. incredible experience. super pumped. the beginning of the uncensorable network. we need to fix the publishing side too but we have a plan for that. a few months and it will all work end to end uncensorable. there is no equivalent in NFTs. seize and etherscan are both censorable for example (they are websites)

I think / hope we will most of the team back on Monday from various summer vacations. This is needed too though! People need to recharge their brains

on app when scrolling down the My Stream it can be slow to load / gets stuck. I would pre-load a couple more screens worth at any point in time for a smoother experience

@[prxt0] for some reason on app: 1) My Stream stopped working 2. it is constantly popping the browser wallet connector

@[simo] i think we can probably handle this odd shaped image differently :) https://seize.io/waves/e933d8d6-0c78-4e8f-aa12-f67d8c11b4dc?drop=9e9753e8-ca93-4bad-9051-462c25ad2744

@[prxt0] dunno if I am dumb but I think I can't get a URL reference for a drop from the app so we will need an explicit share button to get it since you don't have the explicit URL in the browser bar. having said that, I think the web would also benefit from a share button so i think we can do it for both - and have a share option that is copy link, but also progressively add social media sites etc

A few other app update items for @[prxt0] 1. I am probably dumb but I did not find the in-app update button (just did it on startup) 2. When you do it on startup, I think you probably need some indicator that it is happening (a persistent window with progress bar or something because otherwise you have no real idea that anything is happening) 3. The window to start the update disappears as the app comes to life and you need to find it behind the app window. I wonder if you should make it a blocker that you have to say yes/no to proceed to the app 4. When you say 'update now' it probably should not give you the modal of you should shut down the app in the background or not and just go ahead and quit the app without popping that 5. separately from all that, will probably need some release notes / some urgency notes on app updates so people know what they are updating

@[prxt0] if you can get rid of these default Windows scroll bars, that would be great; they are ruining your futuristic vibe ;) either make them black or invisible I guess

@[prxt0] some strange transparency on the About menu

@[prxt0] dunno if you can, but if you can style this like the rest of the app, it will look prettier

@[prxt0] dunno if you can, but if you can style this like the rest of the app, it will look prettier

You may be wondering: 1) why was our 6529 Core decentralized app delayed by MSFT for Windows and 2) still delayed by Apple for Mac 3) Can't we just release? 4) Of course, and we have been working with the pre-release versions for weeks. 5) But without a publisher signing key both Mac and PC will show scary messages on installation so we decided to get a publisher key for now to not scare everyone :)

6529 Core

**6529 Core 0.0.1, Take 2** Version with faster download links This version has faster download links. I will repeat the intro text too so we can use this one link **Overview** OK alpha testers, time for something important. 1. Today we ship v0.0.1 of 6529 Core for Windows and Linux. We are still waiting for some signing credentials for Apple/Mac, but the app is otherwise ready for Mac too and we hope in the coming days/weeks to have Mac live too. 2. 6529 Core is the desktop app, the true beginning of the 6529 Network 3. What you will find on 6529 Core today is the full Seize.io experience, running on your own computer. 4. For now, the app is getting its data (the backend) from our API, but over the next weeks and months we will: a) read data directly from the blockchain b) do calculations (e.g. TDH) locally c) serve TDH from the 6529 Core and some smart contracts d) move CIC/REP/Brain to peer-to-peer 5. Once all of this is accomplished, the whole protocol will be decentralized and even if we (the 6529 team) "go away" everything will run decentralized forever. We will still have a website but the website will just be reading from the network, just like Etherscan reads from Ethereum nodes 6. There are many challenges ahead, but today is the beginning of the beginning of the real thing - a decentralized network for building, well, a decentralized network society 7. What we need from you: a) download it and start using it (in preference to the web) b) submit your comments/bug reports to the alpha wave c) we have been running the desktop app for weeks now (not going through the web) and our strong preference is that you do so too for your desktop needs 8. What about mobile? a) We will make mobile apps too but mobile apps will be read only. b) We think the performance needs of the nodes are only viable on desktops / laptops / servers and this is what we plan to make the decentralized network. c) Mobile will come soonish for convenience though. 9. I cannot overstate how excited I am. a) We are at the beginning of a decentralized and unstopppable network now. b) We think we know what technical steps we need to do to remove any centralized dependencies and we have a pathway now to do it bit by bit, making more and more functionality decentralized c) my guess is that by first part of 2025 the whole network can operate without us **Download Links** **Windows** 64-bit (x64) - Recommended for most[https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-x64-0.0.1.exe](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-x64-0.0.1.exe "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-x64-0.0.1.exe") 32-bit (x32) [https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-ia32-0.0.1.exe](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-ia32-0.0.1.exe "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-ia32-0.0.1.exe") ARM64 [https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-arm64-0.0.1.exe](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-arm64-0.0.1.exe "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-arm64-0.0.1.exe") Universal - Larger file size (if you don't know your version) [https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-0.0.1.exe](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-0.0.1.exe "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/win/6529%20CORE-win-0.0.1.exe") **Linux** AppImage [https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.AppImage](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.AppImage "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.AppImage") Debian (.deb) [https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-amd64-0.0.1.deb](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-amd64-0.0.1.deb "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-amd64-0.0.1.deb") Red Hat (.rpm) [https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.rpm](https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.rpm "https://d3lqz0a4bldqgf.cloudfront.net/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.rpm")

**6529 Core v0.0.1** OK alpha testers, time for something important. 1. Today we ship v0.0.1 of 6529 Core for Windows and Linux. We are still waiting for some signing credentials for Apple/Mac, but the app is otherwise ready for Mac too and we hope in the coming days/weeks to have Mac live too. 2. 6529 Core is the desktop app, the true beginning of the 6529 Network 3. What you will find on 6529 Core today is the full Seize.io experience, running on your own computer. 4. For now, the app is getting its data (the backend) from our API, but over the next weeks and months we will: a) read data directly from the blockchain b) do calculations (e.g. TDH) locally c) serve TDH from the 6529 Core and some smart contracts d) move CIC/REP/Brain to peer-to-peer 5. Once all of this is accomplished, the whole protocol will be decentralized and even if we (the 6529 team) "go away" everything will run decentralized forever. We will still have a website but the website will just be reading from the network, just like Etherscan reads from Ethereum nodes 6. There are many challenges ahead, but today is the beginning of the beginning of the real thing - a decentralized network for building, well, a decentralized network society 7. What we need from you: a) download it and start using it (in preference to the web) b) submit your comments/bug reports to the alpha wave c) we have been running the desktop app for weeks now (not going through the web) and our strong preference is that you do so too for your desktop needs 8) What about mobile? a) We will make mobile apps too but mobile apps will be read only. b) We think the performance needs of the nodes are only viable on desktops / laptops / servers and this is what we plan to make the decentralized network. c) Mobile will come soonish for convenience though. 9) I cannot overstate how excited I am. a) We are at the beginning of a decentralized and unstopppable network now. b) We think we know what technical steps we need to do to remove any centralized dependencies and we have a pathway now to do it bit by bit, making more and more functionality decentralized c) my guess is that by first part of 2025 the whole network can operate without us 10) The links to various desktop builds are below. 1. **Windows** 64-bit (x64) - Recommended [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-x64-0.0.1.exe](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-x64-0.0.1.exe "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-x64-0.0.1.exe") 32-bit (x32) [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-ia32-0.0.1.exe](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-ia32-0.0.1.exe "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-ia32-0.0.1.exe") ARM64 [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-arm64-0.0.1.exe](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-arm64-0.0.1.exe "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-arm64-0.0.1.exe") Universal - Larger file size (if you don't know which version you need) [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-0.0.1.exe](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-0.0.1.exe "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/windows/6529%20CORE-win-0.0.1.exe") **Linux** AppImage [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.AppImage](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.AppImage "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.AppImage") Debian (.deb) [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-amd64-0.0.1.deb](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-amd64-0.0.1.deb "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-amd64-0.0.1.deb") Red Hat (.rpm) [https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.rpm](https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.rpm "https://6529bucket.s3.eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/6529-core-app/linux/6529%20CORE-linux-x86_64-0.0.1.rpm")

Back to the good old days today - "you see the card the day of the drop" because @[teexels] forgot to send it to me and I forgot what day it was!

@[teexels] @[prxt0] @[6529er] @[000] @[simo] 1. I think we can move to do making the main minting page for the Memes the one on Seize. 2. I have used it the last couple of weeks with no problem 3. If anyone else has had a recent problem, please flag here 4. Maybe starting next week, we direct people to the seize page (leave the manifold page as backup) 5. And 2-3 weeks after that, we decommission the manifold page altogether 6. Let me know your views

good openai rumors summary here: https://x.com/koltregaskes/status/1822449203789857197 just rumors for now but interesting

"OM embrace: The Human-Digital Confluence" [@izzzikim](https://x.com/izzzikim)

**This Week in Memes** Monday: [@izzzikim](https://x.com/izzzikim) Wednesday: [@_r0yart](https://x.com/_r0yart) Friday: [@dasNeves_vfx](https://x.com/dasNeves_vfx)

Imaging posting in the future without TDH backing it https://x.com/search?q=hacksider&src=typed_query

!!!!