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#1574220 2026-10-24 20:01
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47498 2025-03-26 22:43
let's say we have X blocks a day and 95% of them have only 6529 transactions and 4% have ETH tx and 1% have SOL
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47496 2025-03-26 22:42
anything else is wildly inefficient
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47495 2025-03-26 22:42
but then even more so, the person who wants to execute a transaction on one of those chains and needs the oracle should pay for it
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47492 2025-03-26 22:42
yes
Context from david #47489 2025-03-26 22:41
I agree with this. should be extensible to all significant chains ideally
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47488 2025-03-26 22:41
BTC is hard btw bc of its limitations
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47487 2025-03-26 22:40
i am saying something different. even if we decided to mint NFTs on 6529 chain tomorrow, being able to transport decisions to ETH is important (and Sol and BTC etc)
Context from Sert #47485 2025-03-26 22:39
Is it possible that validators could vote on this in the future, if minting on Ethereum becomes too expensive or restrictive in a few years?
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47486 2025-03-26 22:40
"you, the person who is in a rush to do something with 500 gwei gas"
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47484 2025-03-26 22:39
put a bounty for validators to post in high gas situations
Context from david #47482 2025-03-26 22:37
at the very least the network has to store the merkle hash on Ethereum so others can take their own actions iwth individual proofs
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47483 2025-03-26 22:37
we will allow for this, but a world where we retreat to our chain is a mistake. as an individual, I use many chains. hard to imagine a network state should not be able to "use many chains" when any individual in the network can
Context from david #47478 2025-03-26 22:37
is there a world in which new NFTs from the memes are minted on 6529 or will it always be Ethereum and then you never can ensure gas isn't crazy expensive right
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47480 2025-03-26 22:37
on core consensus of another chain
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47479 2025-03-26 22:37
you can't impose external chain costs
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47477 2025-03-26 22:36
then they should pay for it
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47476 2025-03-26 22:36
if they really need it during the 500 gwei gas
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47475 2025-03-26 22:36
so they can wait
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47474 2025-03-26 22:36
most of the time it is not time sensitive
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47473 2025-03-26 22:36
on ETH
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47472 2025-03-26 22:36
i think you need to move the cost to the person who wants the transaction
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47471 2025-03-26 22:35
you can't "force" validators to bridge under those conditions, they just won't
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47470 2025-03-26 22:35
and mainnet gas is 400 or something
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47469 2025-03-26 22:35
and they are having some crisis of their own
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47468 2025-03-26 22:34
the challenge is when you give assurances that you can transport decisions to ETH or BTC or SOL or whatever
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47467 2025-03-26 22:34
it is no big deal
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47466 2025-03-26 22:34
on our chain, it is fine, we will have a ton of validators, can manage our own gas, tokens, etc
Context from punk6529 #47464 2025-03-26 22:33
i am very wary of setting up a situation where activity on another chain can ever break core functionality
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47464 2025-03-26 22:33
i am very wary of setting up a situation where activity on another chain can ever break core functionality
Context from david #47460 2025-03-26 22:32
if we have lots of nodes there could be a 6529 token reward for trusted nodes to verify the merkle hash but would require more Ethereum transactions
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47462 2025-03-26 22:33
so you can set the consensus rules anyway you like
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47459 2025-03-26 22:32
you need to deploy a 6529 smart wallet that is tied to the oracle
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47457 2025-03-26 22:32
in order for one to use this
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47455 2025-03-26 22:32
keep in mind that there is a 2nd level of ETH
Context from punk6529 #47453 2025-03-26 22:31
in the absolute worst case, you can say at the smart contract level: "I trust 2 of these 5 validators on this"
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47454 2025-03-26 22:31
i think this SZN will be fine
Context from BrynnAlise #47452 2025-03-26 22:31
if someone sold their meme cards back when they were like an eth each - and then bought about 24 back - do they have a chance at minting this next season? Asking for a friend 🫠
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47453 2025-03-26 22:31
in the absolute worst case, you can say at the smart contract level: "I trust 2 of these 5 validators on this"
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47451 2025-03-26 22:31
we can do better than centralizing
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47449 2025-03-26 22:30
the way L2s do it is simply centralizing this part lol
Context from david #47447 2025-03-26 22:30
restricting who can create the merkle proof is the obvious answer but it also can't be spoofed is the biggest security concern
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47446 2025-03-26 22:30
yes and the question is how do you know which one is valid
Context from david #47444 2025-03-26 22:28
the actions of the 6529 create transactions like minting on Ethereum. this decision is sent to Ethereum and can only be completed with a valid by proof (by anyone). It needs to have the final truth on Ethereum
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47443 2025-03-26 22:28
his question is smart and the correct one. how does ETH know which one is valid
Context from Sert #47442 2025-03-26 22:27
Merkle trees should always be valid because they are verified on the 6529 chain (so on-chain). Invalid trees won’t reach the smart contracts as they’d be rejected by the 6529 chain. Am I wrong?
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47441 2025-03-26 22:27
here there is a straightforward tradeoff between security and cost
Context from punk6529 #47440 2025-03-26 22:26
easy way to do it is to vote by TDH on-chain on ETH but it can get expensive when ETH gas is high, so noodling over how far you can relax it
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47440 2025-03-26 22:26
easy way to do it is to vote by TDH on-chain on ETH but it can get expensive when ETH gas is high, so noodling over how far you can relax it
Context from david #47431 2025-03-26 22:20
what if there is an invalid merkle tree posted to a chain?
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47439 2025-03-26 22:24
or anyone authorized by that smart contract
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47438 2025-03-26 22:23
but it can be anyone
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47436 2025-03-26 22:23
someone has to trigger with an EOA
Context from Sert #47433 2025-03-26 22:22
smart contracts won't start the functions
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47430 2025-03-26 22:19
group decisions: human, bot, AI or otherwise
Context from david #47427 2025-03-26 22:18
where offchain data is not from APIs but from human decisions?
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47429 2025-03-26 22:18
once the chain is up, it is something like this: 1/ a wave is a native multi-sig on the chain 2/ a wave's decisions are offchain signature aggregation, once it hits its threshold, submits a transaction to the 6529 chain, is verified, enters a block 3/ merkle tree of each block posted on all bridged chains 4/ smart contract wallets on each bridge chain are chained to only decisions in the oracle
Context from david #47418 2025-03-26 22:16
so these votes are like offchain signatures that form the requirements to send the tx once they are combined?
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47421 2025-03-26 22:16
not exactly
Context from david #47418 2025-03-26 22:16
so these votes are like offchain signatures that form the requirements to send the tx once they are combined?
punk6529 6529 Tech Feedback Reply #47416 2025-03-26 22:16
>0
Context from Abrahanny #47401 2025-03-26 22:09
How many credits is needed to be able to use the applause+?
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47414 2025-03-26 22:15
and the part that is going to need the most testing
punk6529 Memes-Chat #47413 2025-03-26 22:15
the decentralization and trust assumptions of the oracle (bridge) is the hardest part
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47412 2025-03-26 22:15
oracle
Context from david #47407 2025-03-26 22:13
how does the community decision to mint a NFT trigger a transaction on ETH? through a bridge?
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47409 2025-03-26 22:14
React FE developers not sure if they are being summoned
Context from MintFace #47400 2025-03-26 22:09
We are now at 350,000 of +rep donated to the 6529 Network Art Drought! Thank you to all of those who are ensuring artists from The Line will be able to rehydrate the network through art. https://6529.io/my-stream?wave=ccc67aa7-7c6e-40e0-93e8-136f42c6f3cd
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47408 2025-03-26 22:14
yes
Context from Sert #47404 2025-03-26 22:10
> Independent chain??
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #47394 2025-03-26 22:08
thanks for leaking the white paper buddy
Context from boredsurgeon #47392 2025-03-26 22:07
L2 on btc on the rune protocol