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punk6529 Memes-Chat #103864 2025-05-05 19:56
it is good
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103863 2025-05-05 19:56
7 orders of magnitude
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103862 2025-05-05 19:56
going from 100,000,000 to 10
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103861 2025-05-05 19:55
vs the 77,494,406 contracts deployed on mainnet
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103859 2025-05-05 19:54
we precompile the 10 things we need
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103858 2025-05-05 19:54
yes exactly
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103855 2025-05-05 19:54
not a contract per se
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103854 2025-05-05 19:54
just native to the protocol
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103853 2025-05-05 19:54
we are going to make a world class best in the world NFT contract
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103851 2025-05-05 19:53
like i am not going to make a crappy NFT contract
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #103849 2025-05-05 19:53
things like this are beyond rounding errors. we are taking complexity vs eth down like 5 orders of magnitude. the incremental savings on complexity in limiting decimals is both "nothing" and also kindof someone is really going to want 3 decimal points and now you get into odd issues "why"
Context from david #103842 2025-05-05 19:51
simple NFT and token standards would be good. only one decimal amount for exmaple
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103848 2025-05-05 19:52
or vice versa i think it should be possible to do
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103847 2025-05-05 19:52
and they don't care about ETH liquidity
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103846 2025-05-05 19:51
and do whatever things they want to do
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103845 2025-05-05 19:51
if someone wants to move their memes to move them around on 6529 cheaper
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103843 2025-05-05 19:51
and on a per person basis
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #103841 2025-05-05 19:51
you can make that decision then
Context from david #103838 2025-05-05 19:50
right, the counterpoint would be that you could have multiple branches of other chains that are movable but in reality liquidity is sticky
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103837 2025-05-05 19:49
what if (I doubt it, but what if, in the long run, ETH has issues)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103835 2025-05-05 19:49
what if mainnet gas goes crazy again
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103834 2025-05-05 19:49
and I think risky
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103833 2025-05-05 19:49
seems basically nuts to imagine "no, we of all people cannot have an NFT"
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103832 2025-05-05 19:49
should we be able to represent an NFT?
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103831 2025-05-05 19:49
i think some basics you have to be able to represent
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103830 2025-05-05 19:48
and that is it
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103829 2025-05-05 19:48
or whatever
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103828 2025-05-05 19:48
there are x native functions (e.g. 10)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103827 2025-05-05 19:48
there are no contracts
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103826 2025-05-05 19:48
like it is impossible actually impossible to have a malicious contract
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103825 2025-05-05 19:48
you are order getting orders of magnitude simplification within each vertical because: - you don't have arbitrary code of which 1 version of 100,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 etc etc versions of the code happens to be an order book - and even further it is not like there are xxx versions of an order book - and also you are doing 10 things not 10,000 things so the design space, complexity, auditability, things that can go wrong, speed of computation is orders of magnitude of complexity lower than ETH
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103824 2025-05-05 19:45
i think
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103823 2025-05-05 19:45
to do something basic like "buy your gas token"
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103822 2025-05-05 19:45
you can't be totally dependent on someone else's chain
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #103821 2025-05-05 19:45
you don't know if the super chain will have cheap computation
Context from david #103818 2025-05-05 19:44
I think 2, 5 and 6 open the door to a wider range of things than initially needed maybe. why have these all on the native chain if you can outsource them to the Superchain with cheap computation?
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103816 2025-05-05 19:40
this is my current project
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103815 2025-05-05 19:40
and something something something lots of magic with ZK Proofs
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103814 2025-05-05 19:39
I think native items are: 1/ identity (ENS equivalent, but multi-address, multi-chain,etc covered already -> extension of ID, TDH, rep etc) 2/ basic order book 3/ bridges (again anyway we are going to do this at a more general level so this is fine) 4/ NFT contracts (with all the trimmings - need this for sure) 5/ token contracts (tbd but probably) 6/ lending (tbd but probably) doesn't that cover 95% of what people do on a blockchain anyway and you can do it with <10 native optimized ops
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103813 2025-05-05 19:36
definitely will not support EVM contracts
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #103812 2025-05-05 19:36
yes the whole concept of the blockchain is just state changes
Context from david #103809 2025-05-05 19:35
maybe like an orderbook type system built in Go or something. I will check out what open source libraries or projects exist like that. You can't port EVM AMMs to the chain
punk6529 Memes-Chat Reply #103811 2025-05-05 19:36
yes ofc ETH too
Context from david #103804 2025-05-05 19:34
I would say the exchange should be ETH/6529 for maximum trustlessness
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103803 2025-05-05 19:33
so this is a trustless bridge for USDT/USDC or whatever
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103802 2025-05-05 19:32
because in principle people should be able to buy the token on its own chain
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103801 2025-05-05 19:32
for people to be able to bridge in the other direction too
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103800 2025-05-05 19:32
you can think about what that should look like too
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103799 2025-05-05 19:32
I think on our network we have a simple prebuilt AMM (no arbitrary deployment, just built into the protocol)
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103796 2025-05-05 19:30
and less differentiated
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103794 2025-05-05 19:30
there is nothing more boring
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103793 2025-05-05 19:30
i absolutely 100% am certain we do not want to be playing the "oh get EVM TVL on our chain"
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103792 2025-05-05 19:29
so among all of those, we can also bridge the token
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103790 2025-05-05 19:29
our whole thing is "we do trustless bridges to mainnet"
punk6529 Memes-Chat #103788 2025-05-05 19:29
for the token