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thanks brosef. it is still plenty affordable for top collectors
A full set's current floor is around 109.31 ETH, with top bids totaling 34.99 ETH. ([6529nfts.io](https://www.6529nfts.io/memes/collection-and-season-valuations?utm_source=openai)) Given ETH's price at $3,563.61, that's roughly $389K at floor and $125K at top bid.
almost done!
could be worse, you could be me, a moron, who forgot to subscribe family for SZN10 and have been grinding (well @[DarrenSRS] to be fair) to get it back
what is the current bid/ask cost of a full set
it is not too late for them
I tried getting The Whale Vault to do it from the off.
Now I tell them it’s probably too late to become a full set holder.
Should have listened to my own advice. But it was never a cheap thing to do for most of us.
the complete system of:
- TDH accrual
- Edition size
- AL
is very important to the protocol so the way I think about it something like 'some day vitalik will read the algorithm" and I do not want him to say "my god these guys are morons, they have spent 4 years working on this and here are 3 obvious holes"
so let's harden it as much as possible
and it will have to survive by itself
into the wild
at some point we will let go of the baby
let's push our thinking to the maximum
and AL be a thing which can be gamified on the edges, if someone is so smart.
this is what they are saying in effect
yeah but a full set collector has more pressure to fill each spot
at a more philosophical level, a full set collector core personality may be different from a high TDH, TDH optimizer core collector personality.
So probably not needed to find the same fix for both.
so goes back to the point you make on TDH be the purest thing. Keep it sacrosanct.
it is best to start your full set journey way before SZN40 or to be very rich!
reads ok to me.
Any new holders will find it harder and harder to get a full set.
So the boost really is for the current full set holders.
Imagine joining in szn40 and wanting a full set 🤯
we do it all in public here!
I love the fact that this discussion is public, you doin this the right way
the issue is that people are using it tactically for the higher value cards right?
if all high TDH people said "we want to buy 3 of every card then editions would be 600 or whatever and we would have plenty of P0 spots"
P0 is not a fixed scarce number
good
but I think the idea of precommitting is also goo
you might miss out on something special at 3M
so that if you split your 3M into 1.5M each
it needs to be TDH based too
if we do surprises
full sets won't solve high TDH not full set splits
For that won’t ‘surprises’ work better?
Some additional surprises only for full sets.
Otherwise if relying totally on boosts, it ca be gamified very heavily (E.g. I choose when to get my boost)
TDH is the only thing that matters but the only reason TDH is a good metric is because the whole system was designed to make TDH a good metric. AL is a tool to make TDH work
So what’s more important, TDH or AL spots?
Push the narrative the way you want it to go.
fine that is OK
so if someone says "sure I am truly genuinely trying to buy every card in SZN 15 x 3 and I have a lot of TDH sure"
in advance of knowing the winner
we allocate P0 for people who commit / subscribe to P0
I think that is tricky. how about this
where in principle if you are high enough in TDH to be able to get into P0 even if split in two, you can trade off neutral to lower TDH for more AL spots
now we need to address the question of high TDH non-full set
so with #1, if you have a full set your incentive is to consolidate because you get the same number of AL spots and more TDH
so i do not want to full myself/ourselves that we are doing things when they are trivially fakeable
you have just described (correctly) a trivial way a high TDH holder can take one of the spots for "new collector" by simply having another wallet
of course this is the reason but if we lock the front door but have the side door wide open then the reason is not going to be effective
Yep. This also. But isn’t that theoretically the main reason for preferential treatment to latest Szns? Asking this as a question. Been our assumption.
imagine I have:
3 full sets, 1 in one wallet, 2 in another wallet and a third wallet with SZN-1 and SZN(current) TDH: I get 3 AL
now in the new adjusted #1, I also get 3 AL and higher TDH
just the TDH split issue remains
made another small adjustment to 1d. with that adjustment, I think the set split issue goes away
It’s a combination of both these things.
So 1 wallet which is in top 100/200, and another wallet which has last 2 szn full sets. It’s better for them to be split from a third wallet which has 1 or more full sets.
but this is just deceiving ourselves
they just look like a "new collector" to us
fake news though. if an existing high TDH collector can get around it by having a second wallet, they are not a "new collector"
instead of 1
instead of 1
you get 2 ALs
forget full sets for a second
into 1.5M each
you split it