but making a broad network wide decision is a big deal
Shit Punk Says
Oceans of Wisdom
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matching drops
#1574220
2026-10-24 20:01
and I want to do something on Shape
@[bonafidehan] is always asking me "when are you going to do something on Shape"
and it is much more scalable this way
without saying "you have to buy one of our memes"
to bring other people in
I think it is very nice way
outside of 6529
but if @[intrepid] does it for his collectors
the protocol needs to be aligned as it is
it breaks the protocol
and if the protocol does it
a lot of people over time told me "but why don't you give TDH to punks or bayc or xcopy holders"
I think there is another interesting benefit here
there are two different points here but I want to say that Stream is meant to be higher volume than the emems
I prefer the idea of being able to allocate shadow TDH to any contract ; rather than running it all via Stream . As this would better preserve provenance imo. Stream quickly becomes like the OS storefront contract if everyone is minting everything to it
he does 1/1 NFTs Sgt Pepe outside of The Memes
outside of NextGen
he is doing a generative drop now
I can easily imagine @[arsonic] doing it to integrate his whole universe under one umbrella
I know. Just looking at why someone would do that.
come on
you can make the decision to tie 1 meme card to a 1/1 and decide not to rug them
you are a grown adult
that is also an additional thing you can do
if you want to do it and then rug them
if you want to stake a meme card to do it, it is "an additional thing you can do"
you have sold 1/1s so far in your life with no extra TDH
nobody has forced you to do anything ser
So it’s pointless doing it from an artists point of view.
They wanted the art.
You gave them more. (You got no more)
And if you change your mind, sell your cards etc…, you become a rugger.
you will always pick #1
since #2 is fatal and #1 is just mildly annoying
1/ just hardcode a low amount so you don't mess up the balances (what I did with Pebbles)
OR
2/ risk people abusing it and messing up the balances with The Memes
you will end up with one of two solutions
try to design an appropriate system for "how much TDH a 1/1 NFT on Stream will get"
which is The Memes
is that I want to protect the predictability of the core TDH mechanism
the reason i am going this way
OK, you still have a 1/1 from @[arsonic] and you can take that TDH rugging into account going forward
then he rugs you on the TDH
he says "yup, I am committed for the long-term and you will also get 10 TDH a day from it"
you buy it primarily because it is a 1/1 from arsonic
Arsonic does a 1/1 on Stream
but OK is it the end of the world if that happens?
true
Or just takes it back
i am open to being wrong here
this is correct
but with normal TDH you are the one destroying it, by selling cards, right?
but I think the direction of letting 1,000 flowers bloom
as I said I don't have it fully thought out
yeah, something like that
Yes okay. People can launch new collections and stake their TDH there so the new collection has relationship to overall protocol and system TDH but we are not collectively deciding what new collection gets TDH or not, one person can decide on their own. And so there is flexibility and creativity but overall TDH still is known and predictable
and when it is gone, it is gone
you can vote while you have it
no different than regular TDH in this regard
My concern with the shadow TDH approach would be the confusion that unstaking (and destroying) the shadow TDH may cause to owners of that shadow TDH who have perhaps already used that shadow TDH they received to do things in the system (vote on stuff, etc).