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#1553800 2026-10-20 16:15
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412255 2025-10-30 20:58
then the white paper network launch timing etc has to do with does one write the white paper before you are actually decentralized or not
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412252 2025-10-30 20:58
it needs me being more hands on on dev side for a few weeks and we will do it
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412249 2025-10-30 20:58
this is straightforward good stuff
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412248 2025-10-30 20:57
i want to in all case get out xtdh and stream
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412245 2025-10-30 20:57
network state thread is not competitive with white paper
Context from david #412238 2025-10-30 20:56
when do you think the white paper might come out? how do you view a network state thread vs a white paper? Does the network launch come much later than you previously thought?
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412239 2025-10-30 20:56
truly decentralized systems are very rare
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412234 2025-10-30 20:55
everything needs to be able to happen without me
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412233 2025-10-30 20:55
for this to be a good system
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412230 2025-10-30 20:55
but need to expand the scope of things that happen without me
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412228 2025-10-30 20:55
so I will push again for a couple of months
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412227 2025-10-30 20:54
still too much waiting around for me :)
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412222 2025-10-30 20:54
"marketing", "pushing forward", etc
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412218 2025-10-30 20:53
meme card selection is pretty good without me now
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412214 2025-10-30 20:53
but it should be resilient to that
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412211 2025-10-30 20:53
ideally I will not be hit by a bus
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412208 2025-10-30 20:53
it needs to be resilient to me getting hit by a bus
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412207 2025-10-30 20:53
yes this is the only outcome that is interesting to me
Context from Andi_P #412203 2025-10-30 20:52
Ah got it, failing #4 basically means no one’s “driving” the value, it’s just the network coordinating itself, right? We were thinking how the same coordination flow that mints art could start powering IRL experiments. That’s where it gets interesting, when the protocol starts creating tangible outcomes without needing permission from any entity.
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412204 2025-10-30 20:52
the default case is you get a pump and the a dump
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412199 2025-10-30 20:52
almost every single idea DOES NOT work
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412194 2025-10-30 20:52
there are so so so so many landmines
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412189 2025-10-30 20:51
"what if we contribute but don't reach the line and we have paid and nothing happens"
Context from punk6529 #412184 2025-10-30 20:50
otherwise people worry about going first
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412186 2025-10-30 20:50
oh that is fun
Context from smpsmyth #412181 2025-10-30 20:50
I don’t know why being secretive I’ll just put my idea here lol Long story short, for my final round of wine samples I’m considering releasing a meme card with art. Anyone that buys will be able to redeem a case for themselves, and send a case to someone else in the 6529 network. i will do a custom run of labels for that first run, and all funds will be used for sending bottles to people in the network. I will register the business as a profile on the network and have the 20 cards left there to grow tdh
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412184 2025-10-30 20:50
otherwise people worry about going first
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412183 2025-10-30 20:50
for larger amounts it needs some type of escrow mechanic in that it triggers only when a hurdles is met within a time frame I think
Context from HugoFaz #412153 2025-10-30 20:46
for the current project we long debated but it can't be done just with meme card due to specific constraints that restrict the total funding a meme card can provide... but found a way to integrate a meme card into the larger project for sure.
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412169 2025-10-30 20:48
tax wise that there might be some IRS improvements coming
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412164 2025-10-30 20:48
i think there is an interesting question about "the rest"
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412162 2025-10-30 20:47
yeah along these lines
Context from Articulate #412156 2025-10-30 20:47
You had a whole mechanism for this you sketched out in Discord a few years ago - any major changes? I could find it but it was the “allocation of revenue proportional to TDH“ method
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412150 2025-10-30 20:46
whaddup
Context from ricodemus #412149 2025-10-30 20:46
whatup punku
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412148 2025-10-30 20:46
and then we expand from there
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412147 2025-10-30 20:45
is to make sure that the people who do the day to day important work (e.g. development) are paid
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412145 2025-10-30 20:45
the big question, risk post decentralization
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412136 2025-10-30 20:44
lol
Context from Zoku #412133 2025-10-30 20:44
numer 3 is only satisfied if you are full degen
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412126 2025-10-30 20:43
yes
Context from G9ralt #412120 2025-10-30 20:42
Do you think it’s a good idea to start proposing ideas/activities/experiments as Meme Card submissions?
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412122 2025-10-30 20:43
mostly we should aim to fail test #4 it is the most powerful one to fail The **Howey Test** is the U.S. legal standard for determining whether a transaction qualifies as an **“investment contract”**—and therefore a **security**—under federal law. It comes from the 1946 Supreme Court case *SEC v. W.J. Howey Co.* A transaction is an investment contract if it meets **all four prongs**: 1. **Investment of money** — participants contribute capital or something of value. 2. **In a common enterprise** — their fortunes are linked, either horizontally (with other investors) or vertically (with the promoter). 3. **With an expectation of profit** — investors expect returns. 4. **To be derived from the efforts of others** — profits depend primarily on the managerial or entrepreneurial work of someone else, not the investor. If all four criteria are satisfied, the offering is a security subject to SEC regulation. The test is deliberately broad: courts look at the **economic reality** rather than the label. It’s the framework the SEC applies to digital assets, token offerings, and other modern instruments when deciding if they fall under securities law.
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412117 2025-10-30 20:41
there is no real basis for it to be a security
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412115 2025-10-30 20:41
once the company is out of the way
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #412109 2025-10-30 20:41
i think it is doable
Context from Andi_P #412100 2025-10-30 20:39
We were brainstorming at the bar after Hexum’s thread, sketching practical ways to make this happen while avoiding legal/security headaches.
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412086 2025-10-30 20:38
i would not worry about the haters
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #412078 2025-10-30 20:37
and you can explain until I am blue in the face