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punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #436723 2025-11-13 21:48
far far far far more
Context from MintFace #436721 2025-11-13 21:47
normies are far far more basic than we realise now. Biggest unlock was renaming 'crypto wallet' to 'art vault' and then people would download the app. 'why are all these numbers here?' 'oh just copy and paste the 0x one to me and I'll put your art in the vault'
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436720 2025-11-13 21:47
there is no need to then say
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436717 2025-11-13 21:47
you earn TDH from the protocol NFTs you can earn xTDH from NFTs curated by TDH holders
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #436715 2025-11-13 21:47
yes
Context from MBStuart #436714 2025-11-13 21:47
ELI5 what are we trying to achieve? Extending trust to things outside memes? Sorry if a bit out of loop
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436711 2025-11-13 21:46
and then figure out how to make it less confusing
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436710 2025-11-13 21:46
we should not make the website even more confusing
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #436709 2025-11-13 21:46
we need to do both in parallel now
Context from Zigmarillion #436708 2025-11-13 21:46
This for sure is spot on. I get that the focus is on building now and we should keep focusing on that. But if we later want to onboard THAT will need to switch and become one of the main focus
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436703 2025-11-13 21:45
people do not have mental bandwidth for confusing things
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436700 2025-11-13 21:44
we need to work on becoming less confusing
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436699 2025-11-13 21:44
we are already super confusing
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436650 2025-11-13 21:36
I am proposing we do not tell people that when you add TDH + xTDH, you get TDH
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436649 2025-11-13 21:35
I am not proposing a change to what was discussed before
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #436648 2025-11-13 21:35
yes but it is called xTDH
Context from david #436647 2025-11-13 21:35
if you don't use your xTDH you keep it locally?
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #436639 2025-11-13 21:32
TDH/xTDH: Some Thoughts 1/ cc @[simo] @[prxt0] @[GelatoGenesis] @[6529er] 2/ Something that has been bothering me and I was not able to articulate it until last night in my head 3/ nobody has heard this not even the dev team so here goes 4/ TDH + xTDH = TDH is going to confuse the fuck out of everyone and is dumb. It is like saying 5 + 3 = 5. Also it makes it really hard to explain the % of TDH you are allowed to allocate - is it the former or the latter? 5/ We need to go with: TDH and xTDH. There is no need for a composite measure that is TDH + xTDH. xTDH can just be added to your Level and any particular wave can decide if it allows voting with TDH, xTDH or both 6/ Beyond the communication confusion, there are other benefits of this change: a) TDH is immutable. xTDH is not. It is important to not mix this up b) TDH can be calculated very decentralized. xTDH is heavier, less so c) TDH is unchanging. xTDH will change (multipler, does it go multi-chain etc) d) I think it is important that they have different names due to the above too Discuss
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432047 2025-11-11 00:24
team continuing the good fight with xTDH
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432040 2025-11-11 00:19
all the rest is pretty clear to me
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432039 2025-11-11 00:18
1/ this 2/ what xTDH does (want to take it for a test run before WP) 3/ ZK
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432038 2025-11-11 00:18
the three hardest decisions are
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432037 2025-11-11 00:18
in any case, we will discuss
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432034 2025-11-11 00:17
then you get into the question of "what do you do with them"
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432032 2025-11-11 00:16
now if you keep them in a wallet
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432031 2025-11-11 00:16
it is effectively providing liquidity so the infrastructure grants can be cashed out
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432029 2025-11-11 00:15
in the fullness of time, we can go anywhere
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432027 2025-11-11 00:15
scattering liquidity is unhelpful
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432026 2025-11-11 00:15
better to get big and successful in one place
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #432024 2025-11-11 00:14
yes in time
Context from david #432023 2025-11-11 00:14
would stream mint to any chain or just mainnet? and the network proceeds from stream burn the tokens as well
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432022 2025-11-11 00:13
it is not an in-network ponzi
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432021 2025-11-11 00:13
here there is actual ETH coming in from actual art science etc
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432018 2025-11-11 00:12
it is just 99% of burn narratives are self-reflexive
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432016 2025-11-11 00:12
people understand the burn narrative
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432013 2025-11-11 00:10
there is a % factor we decide on emissions
punk6529 maybe's dive bar Reply #432012 2025-11-11 00:10
yes
Context from david #432011 2025-11-11 00:10
so the mint proceeds buy and burn the tokens and then the proposal distributions come from new emissions?
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432008 2025-11-11 00:10
it is also a simpler narrative
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432007 2025-11-11 00:09
using tokens on other chains to buy and burn is probably simpler / cleaner
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432006 2025-11-11 00:09
i think we keep voting proposals distribution on our chain
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432005 2025-11-11 00:08
the memes could go to any other chain too in the future
punk6529 maybe's dive bar #432002 2025-11-11 00:08
it is not just 5 ETH to simo or whatever