we launched it
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2026-10-20 16:15
we build it
so this is the benefit of my incrementalist approach
a superb idea as always ser
What if we introduce xTDH to ct and then just rug them after they come check everything out and get sold on what we’re building
and it is not great for that audience
it starts to look like eigenlayer or something
if I then add into it indexers, oracles, incentives etc etc
I can explain in 5 sentences why it is 'safe'
and say "TDH is extremely robust on decentralization"
which is going to hard core OG crypto decentralization maxis
and I am thinking about an audience that almost none of you are thinking about
that TDH is extremely robust decentralized
i am saying that this is another use case that is not covered by current implementation of xTDH
in which case the people assigning the xTDH have to trust the indexer essentially
that TDH is extremely robust decentralized
because then you can have a cleaner story
lets' have TDH and xTDH and not add them up to TDH
when I said
this is what I was getting at a few weeks ago
so if that is the case, I should be able to allocate green bay packers xTDH
it is because you are inside the sausage making factory while the sausage is being made
This is all so complicated
and so I think we should allow the green bay packers to do this
by me
and at a very low cost
but of course my database is in fact privately indexable
but of course my database is not publicly indexable
I want to "xTDH them"
I have 200,000 fans
I am the Green Bay Packers
let me give you an example
pros
1/ yes you can expand network, etc etc
2/ also I think xTDH is probably not the final state, I think it is a subset of a bigger idea
they cannot socialize the cost on everyone else
the person ordering the lobster needs to pay for the lobster
you need to pay with ETH
if you want to put an absurdly inefficient transaction on ethereum
why should the whole network have to pay for your absurdly expensive xTDH allocation
pros
so this is the problematica part
they have to pay for that cost
so that obviously can't e the way
they are imposing a huge cost on someone
so at a tiny cost to the person
someone wants to allocate 1 xTDH total, split across every Solana holder
let me take an extreme example
for how long
who pays them
the con part is "how do you pay them"
1/ vastly expands the complexity of indexing (unbounded)
2/ means you can't force each node to do it because you then lose decentralization
3/ which means you then need specialized indexers
4/ they can consolidate their indexing into a provable form using ZKP and pass it into a transaction
so far, so good, there are no problems in principle with the above
cons first
like let me give you the pros and cons
so I reserve my right to see how we like it centralized before making the final architectural approach
it is a pain in the ass