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punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476393 2025-12-09 20:09
the investors (mostly me) in the museum, the investors (mostly not me) in the fund, any meme card holder, etc etc
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476389 2025-12-09 20:08
i did not ask anyone to buy a subscription to discord or to oncyber or anywhere else and for the same reason
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476388 2025-12-09 20:07
and that is why boys and girls we learn the lesson that we do not invest money in centralized digital services
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476387 2025-12-09 20:07
and oncyber is effectively no more
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476385 2025-12-09 20:07
i thought there was a way it could work
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476384 2025-12-09 20:07
we spent quite a lot of time working on it
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476383 2025-12-09 20:07
rayan had a plan along those lines
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476380 2025-12-09 20:06
you will note that every single place I have touched money: - NFTs for museum - NFTs for fund - NFTs for network it is only if the underlying is a decentralized token -
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476375 2025-12-09 20:05
but in the end he did not get there
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476374 2025-12-09 20:04
Rayan thought he could do it (decentralize)
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476372 2025-12-09 20:04
could not figure out how to decentralize it effectively so it never left 'testnet' - never took a penny from anyone bc it was not only centralized, but the demands of graphics meant it was going to stay that way for the foreseeable future
Context from boredsurgeon #476364 2025-12-09 20:02
come on, wheres my 3D OM to walk around in
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476365 2025-12-09 20:02
why will that eliminate the risk factors
Context from maybe #476362 2025-12-09 20:02
like at the 1155 level? Is that not techncially possible?
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476361 2025-12-09 20:01
even within NFTs there are big differences
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476360 2025-12-09 20:01
what happens when hugo wants to assign it to his collection
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476359 2025-12-09 20:01
what "Cryptopunks"?
Context from maybe #476358 2025-12-09 20:01
another stupid question: why can we not just limit it to certain token types at the protocol level?
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476354 2025-12-09 20:00
xTDH creates a small, variable but real cost
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476353 2025-12-09 20:00
does not change the fact that assigning xTDH to 6529 Raw will cost nothing to index and assigning the same amount of xTDH to "every holder of $rekt" will cost many orders of magnitude more to index
Context from punk6529 #476350 2025-12-09 19:58
and it is a great way to move the discussion forward
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476350 2025-12-09 19:58
and it is a great way to move the discussion forward
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476348 2025-12-09 19:58
we launched a testnet
Context from david #476345 2025-12-09 19:57
do you think it's a good idea to be so far along with xTDH without having answers to these problems. if we launch a centralized version and then have to take it back?
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476344 2025-12-09 19:57
it can't be spread thin over any arbitrary indexing task
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476343 2025-12-09 19:57
the TDH-$6529 economic security has to protect the core network
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476340 2025-12-09 19:56
who is taking up the slack to keep indexing it
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476338 2025-12-09 19:56
100 years from now we are both dead
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476337 2025-12-09 19:56
and I currently incent @[maybe] to index it
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476336 2025-12-09 19:55
let's say I make an absurdist xTDH allocation
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476334 2025-12-09 19:55
the forever part is the hard part
Context from david #476330 2025-12-09 19:55
with a gas cost closely tied to the actual cost plus a fee
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476331 2025-12-09 19:55
Chainlink you literally pay an indexer
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476328 2025-12-09 19:54
it has to have the bounding of $
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476327 2025-12-09 19:54
you can't let people just create unbounded indexing costs forever
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476326 2025-12-09 19:54
i am more worried about who is going to pay for it
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476324 2025-12-09 19:54
i am less worried about accuracy
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476323 2025-12-09 19:53
if you have ZKP you can check their work with the nodes
Context from david #476319 2025-12-09 19:53
so obviously there needs to be an indexer on a chain for xTDH to be tracked. Ideally a network of indexers all checking each others work and they all need to run zk proofs and get paid for their indexing. this is what you are currently thinking about
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476321 2025-12-09 19:53
but again the "we" is doing a lot of work here
punk6529 Freedom to Expand Reply #476318 2025-12-09 19:53
not right now but I can't see any reason in principle we should not support that eventually
Context from purchardus #476315 2025-12-09 19:52
i Haven’t tried yet, but can I use xtdh for Solana things or BTC things?
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476317 2025-12-09 19:53
cc @[simo] @[GelatoGenesis] the above
punk6529 Freedom to Expand #476313 2025-12-09 19:52
my sense is that it is close but not 100% right yet