systems are 'adverserial' because resources are limited
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2026-10-15 20:54
systems have this outcome
anytime real world resources are involved
and while this example is silly and stylized
and the tigers can all starve to death
from the gazelle's perspective, the optimal amount of times the tigers will eat them is zero
imagine the following: "I would like every tiger to eat an equal number of gazelles" so it is fair to all tigers
sure, but I am pretty sure the gazelles have some skin in the game too and views about this too!
forgets that there is someone else at the table, the counterparty who has agency
:to guarantee great outcomes for everyone"
lol there is no chance we will do this - it will break instantly! of course it is equality of opportunity, not equality of outcome - equality of outcome has never been achieved in human history (or in nature) and we are not going to break the laws of physics and biology here
There is a danger in attempting to engineer a system that guarantees great outcomes for everyone.
Systems should aim to create equal opportunity, not equal results.
In the current design, the rules are transparent: anyone can submit, and anyone can vote in proportion to the TDH they have accumulated. Participation is open, influence is earned through time, commitment, and alignment with the network.
If we start redesigning the mechanism so that voting power is more evenly distributed regardless of contribution, we risk undermining the very incentives that make the protocol function. TDH exists because attention, risk, and long-term presence matter. Diluting that relationship weakens the signal and removes the motivation to commit in the first place.
A system that tries to flatten outcomes in the name of “fairness“ often ends up punishing engagement while rewarding passivity. In doing so, it may feel morally attractive at first, but structurally it erodes the behaviors that allowed the network to grow.
History offers many examples of this pattern. Efforts to equalize results rather than opportunities frequently led to stagnation, declining productivity, and the disappearance of responsibility. When rewards no longer correlate with effort or risk, participation becomes symbolic instead of real.
By contrast, systems that keep entry open but allow differences in outcome tend to generate stronger incentives, clearer signals of value, and more durable coordination.
The present protocol is not perfect, but it preserves a crucial property:
you can join at any time, and what you build from there depends on what you contribute.
hard but right
it is anyway the right answer
we need to be ZKP all the way
it is ZKP all the way
vitalik has cleared up his roadmap
anyway the time is now
KIND REMINDER @[6529er] LOL
also wanted to ask really quick if there's any update on the first exibition for the photography museum/collection? no rush of course just curious!
can you share with punk6529?
oh it’s private at the moment
wen maybebartechfeedback?
github link is 404ing
https://ethunlock.io Is open source Decentralized lock that will open via address or TDH (product)
and force us to first principles
i will need to implement some executive privilege soon
and will never stop
and 1 year later new features all day every day
i said a year ago today we just put a skeleton chat up etc etc
but this will never stop
this is hard because there is always demand for new FE features
anyway soon we need to shift more attention to building the decentralized system
also worth keeping in mind that we are very small team. so balancing between taking time to optimise everything and getting something new out is an everyday thing :)
re-send links
Punk the software is written (completely decentralize) and I’m getting dangerous with 3D printable designs. parts chosen. Meme card 99% ready to go
i don't think this was us?
Sometimes happens during mints, maybe that can be protected? Freeze times? Formosa mint suffered
but FE a bit slow or crashes once in a while is an acceptable outcome in order to move faster
once we have the nodes will be different
on the front-end it is ok
yes exactly
Goes in hand. you don’t know where is limit until you step over it and then adjust shortcomings. pain and fun about moving fast. Somethings things break yes, but they can be fixed :)
lololol - 100% this sorry @[BatSoupYum]
@[Oak] called it 🤣https://x.com/oaknarrow/status/2020221939542004058?s=46
lololololol
i think he is thinking about something more structured
Why would we need to change it? Either bats can share the theme when they are collecting, and people could respond, or if that's too much work to wade through all the Shillandia submissions, we just have a separate wave for bats' collecting theme.
we changed how we loaded secrets and current hypothesis is this was causing some problems @[GelatoGenesis] just pushed something to see if it fixes it, but we are not 100% sure this is it
however it was the first suspect and we just tried something to see
it was the same yday but we still could access the site. but at one point the leaderboard looked different - instead of squares it was like the winners page
it seems like a perfect fit for us
so spoke with @[BatSoupYum] about this - he wants to do it here so let's figure out how to do so
https://x.com/batsoupyum/status/2020207792423067998
we will have to find it
anyway something is happening
yes but back-end is not showing the failures
it says api issue on the status site
nothing 100% obvious on the back-end
@[GelatoGenesis] and @[prxt0] are looking at it
@[simo] did you see this?
oh oh
Well, I mean, there is no error message on this one, but I've been getting it consistently this morning.
don't want to be a Price Predictoooor but I think the USD price will age well on this
great!!!!
LFG!!! Crushing it
nobody seems overly excited to do it
So you think there will be no orher prosecutions?